Anton the website is a little bit messy to me ^^ although important information! people need to understand the deep connection between veganism and UBUNTU!
Friday 3 June 2016, 08:34:50
[deleted user] Indeed, healthy live food=healthy DNA. It's all connected. I've been vegan for years, now I'm integrating raw foods:-)
Friday 3 June 2016, 16:09:08
SkyDancer My take on the Ubuntu philosophy is that we embrace all people, all lifestyles and opinions. We are individuals working together and allowing all variations of expression. I may choose to be a vegetarian but that is my choice and I will respect the decision of anyone who chooses to be a carnivore. Non-judgment has to be the cornerstone of any advanced society.
Sunday 5 June 2016, 18:35:26
Neisha I don't see anyone discriminating, or disrespecting anyone Sky, just sharing our joy around our choice to not eat meat.
Sunday 5 June 2016, 18:55:19
SkyDancer What would you think if you found out that vegetables have a consciousness, too, and can also suffer? Would you stop eating carrots?
Wednesday 8 June 2016, 20:34:14
MaryG I am in complete agreement with SkyDancer...I am pretty sure that Michael Tellinger is not a vegan ...it is more important that whatever we choose it is a conscious choice ....
Wednesday 8 June 2016, 20:52:59
Neisha I do already believe vegetables have consciousness. I am not judging anyone's choices here.
Wednesday 8 June 2016, 21:27:51
SkyDancer Fundamentally, I am most concerned that people don't get the idea that Ubuntu has any constraints built in as far as lifestyle choices, etc., as was expressed in one of the above comments. I am not judging anyone's choices, either, and I think we have to guard against expressing our personal opinions and overlaying them on the Ubuntu philosophy.
Wednesday 8 June 2016, 21:41:46
Neisha I don't think Anton or Kat meant anything by it and I think we need to be able to express who we are and let others do likewise. If we get to bogged down in expressing things which only represent Ubuntu and not each others individuality, we will fast become stale. This is just my humble opinion, but I think unless it is offensive to another being, we should have free speech and understand that not EVERY thought everyone has will always be in line with what another person believes Ubuntu philosophy to be.
Wednesday 8 June 2016, 21:54:15
SkyDancer Of course we want folks to express themselves, but what I am seeing as an issue is the stating (as in the comment above) that there is a "deep" connection to a specific lifestyle or issue to Ubuntu that is not there. This will be a misrepresentation of the Ubuntu philosophy. I want people to know that wherever they are coming from, there is a place for them in a Ubuntu community. Everyone is welcome & valuable and they don't have to jump through any hoops to be a member except to do their 3 hours at a community project a week.
Wednesday 8 June 2016, 22:11:07
Anton I didn't want to cause so much trouble...To me, veganism is a concious choice and therefore connected to Ubuntu.
Thursday 9 June 2016, 12:54:12
Neisha You didn't cause any trouble Anton. I think Sky is an overthinker, and I agree with you completely.
Thursday 9 June 2016, 14:17:52
[deleted user] I agree Anton. Once consciousness kicks in, it does include conscious eating:-) IMHO.